Quiet-Riding Tires on a 16-Inch Wheel (P225/50 R16)

I recently bought a car which came with "road-hugging" 168mph-rated

Pirelli P8000 tires. Great performance tires, unfortunatelly the resulting

ride quality is not unlike riding on bare rims. Every crack on the asphalt,

and at low speed even the tire's own surface patterns can be heard and felt.

I'd like to replace them with comfortable, quiet, smooth tires. The car

will never be driven over 80mph for sustained periods, or 90mph for very

short periods (e.g. passing). It will occasionally be driven in rain and

on plowed/salted roads, but never on packed or fresh snow. Braking and

evasive maneuvering (ie. cornering) performance are important only to

the extent required for normal street driving, not for racing.

Cost, thread wear, and rolling resistance should be considered only as

tie-breakers, not critical factors.

Problem #1 is I have not found any 16-inch (P225/50) tires claiming

to be "touring" tires. Problem #2 is that almost every performance tire

description out there, from manufacturers and tire retailers, boasts

"performance with uncompromised ride quality", so they cannot be trusted.

Please solve my problem!

Can I keep the 16-inch wheels and still find quiet tires?

Thank you.

Clarification of Question byatr-ga

Here are some options. I wonder how they rate. Again, I don't know

that I can

trust the descriptions on the website:


Clarification of Question byatr-ga

argh never mind. The link doesn't paste right.

Request for Question Clarification byaht-ga

In addition to sublime1-ga's comment, and request for information

about the exact application (make/model/year of vehicle), please let

us know whether you will be the only driver, and please also confirm

the implied requirement that the tires be all-season tires (as you

mention several different types of environments in your question).

I happen to use that same tire size on my vehicle, and know that the

majority of tire options available are geared towards the performance

end of the spectrum as the list of cars that use this size include the

BMW 3-series, some Mustangs and Camaros, and assorted other sporty

cars. Knowing the exact make/model of vehicle will be helpful in

giving you the proper advice and direction. The liability associated

with putting an S-rated tire on a vehicle capable of exceeding the

associated speed is yours, and yours alone, but many tire shops will

refuse to perform the installation regardless.

Thanks, and hope we can help,


Clarification of Question byatr-ga

The car is a 1998 BMW 328is, and it may be occasionally be driven

by one person other than myself (why would that matter?).

The "all-season" feature is very confusing. I'm not sure if I need it.

Let me try to break that down a little further:

– If it rains, I would like to be able to drive, understanding that

I will have to drive more carefully. If my tires are not rated "all

season", does that mean I am grounded on wet days and should not

venture out at all?

– It does get cold where I live (Chicago). If my tires are not "all

season," are they going to crack and blow up on a cold day? Am I going

to lose traction on a DRY cold day?

– If there is snow on the road, I don't mind pulling over and waiting

for the slowplow to come by and remove it. Based on personal experience

living in the area, this would be a very rare occurrence. So, I do not

require any kind of "snow" capability. Do I need to have "all season"

tires in order to drive on a road where all the snow has been removed

by application of plow and salt?


Clarification of Question byatr-ga

By the way (not part of the question, but give your opinion if you

have one on this), I'm puzzled by the "responsiveness" claims on

performance tires. I have never driven a car which does not turn

left when I rotate the steering wheel to the left, or turn right

when I turn it to the right. I don't understand what the fuss is


Bonus Question: How fast do I need to be driving around a street

corner in order to start feeling the "responsiveness" differences

between tires?


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